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Spiritual Technologies: Searching for Transcendence without God with Ashley Lande

Aug 17, 2025
Ashley Lande, author of 'The Thing That Would Make Everything Okay Forever', shares her compelling journey through psychedelics and New Age spirituality. She discusses the rising trend of using these substances to connect with spiritual beings and the allure of bypassing traditional means of grace. Lande reflects on her transformation from atheism to faith in Christ, emphasizing emotional shifts sparked by parenthood and grief. The conversation dives into the complex interplay between mystical experiences, mental health, and the implications for contemporary spirituality.
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ANECDOTE

From Psychedelic Seeker To Conversion

  • Ashley Lande recounts embracing psychedelics in college and treating them as her primary spiritual practice for years.
  • Her conversion began amid pregnancy, grief around a friend's child, and hearing the hymn "It Is Well," which led her to Christ.
ADVICE

Prepare Churches For Psychedelic Refugees

  • Pastors should recognize psychedelics attract spiritual seekers and prepare to counsel many returning from that movement.
  • Be hopeful and ready to welcome and shepherd people who experienced psychedelic spirituality.
INSIGHT

Psychedelics Are A Unique Addiction

  • Psychedelics differ from stimulants or opioids: they produce unique altered states rather than classic physical addiction.
  • Ashley calls the pull a psychological or spiritual addiction tied to believing drugs are the path to transcendence.
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