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The Michael Shermer Show

Money, Lies, and God

Mar 11, 2025
Katherine Stewart, author and expert on the intersection of faith and politics, delves into the rise of religious nationalism and its ramifications for American democracy. She discusses alarming strategies used by religious groups to infiltrate public schools and the erosion of church-state separation. The conversation touches on the influence of wealth in politics, revealing how affluent donors shape policies that undermine civil rights. Stewart also highlights the need for grassroots activism to combat misinformation and safeguard democratic values.
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  • The rise of religious nationalism in the U.S. is infiltrating public education, blurring the lines of church and state.
  • Tactics employed by extremist groups distract from pressing social issues, prioritizing cultural crises over economic and health concerns.

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The Rise of Religious Nationalism

The conversation addresses the troubling rise of religious nationalism in the United States, which has been methodically infiltrating public education. This movement promotes the introduction of partisan religious curricula into public schools, blurring the lines of church and state. One driving incident involves a program targeting young students in a Californian public school that aims to enforce a particular Christian ideology as the norm. This outreach is supported by a strategic legal framework that aims to erode the constitutional separation of church and state, raising alarms about the future of educational integrity and pluralism.

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