Open Source Startup Podcast E180: Why Kubernetes Still Needs Simplifying: The Nadrama Story
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Aug 24, 2025 Ryan Djurovich, Founder & CEO of Nadrama, dives into the complexities of Kubernetes and why simplifying it is crucial for developers. He discusses the challenges of setup and operations, aiming to streamline processes to enhance developer experience. Djurovich shares insights on the core value of Nadrama, focusing on abstracting infrastructure pain. He also emphasizes the importance of community engagement in product development and his commitment to baseline security informed by his Cloudflare experience.
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Kubernetes Experience Sparked Nodrama
- Ryan describes onboarding teams to Kubernetes at Cloudflare, Xero, and as a CTO while running cluster migrations.
- Those experiences inspired him to simplify developer deployments by abstracting infrastructure pain.
Make Kubernetes Scale Down, Not Just Up
- Kubernetes provides powerful abstractions developers love but operational setup and cost exclude smaller teams.
- Reimagining the control plane could let production-grade Kubernetes scale down to hobbyist and small clusters.
Single-Node Clusters Live In Under 90s
- He launched single-node AWS clusters that provision in ~70–90 seconds with kubectl access immediately.
- Clusters come pre-bundled with ingress, cert-manager, Argo CD, DNS and SSO so developers can deploy fast.