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The J.D. Vance "Phony" Debate Shaking Up 2028, and Who Lost the Shutdown, with GOP Whip Tom Emmer

Nov 13, 2025
Tom Emmer, the House Majority Whip and Republican U.S. Representative from Minnesota, reveals the inside scoop on ending the recent government shutdown and discusses healthcare reform priorities. Rich Lowry, Editor-in-chief of National Review, and Yemisi Egbewole, a former Biden White House staffer, join to explore the political aftermath of recent elections, immigration tensions, and the authenticity debate surrounding J.D. Vance as he steps into the 2028 race, questioning his genuine appeal to voters.
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INSIGHT

Economy And Distrust Fuel Polarization

  • Economic decline plus institutional distrust drive political unrest and anger across demographics.
  • AI is a crossroads that can either deepen inequality or empower individuals depending on adoption and governance.
INSIGHT

AI: Empower People Or Empower The Powerful

  • AI's trajectory matters: it can empower people or entrench the powerful.
  • Current trends worry Halperin because AI may exacerbate inequality and distrust if left unchecked.
ADVICE

Use Consumer Power To Push Institutions

  • Make consumer choices that reduce dependence on dominant tech and protect privacy.
  • Use alternative products and markets to pressure institutions to change their behavior.
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