Ryan Foland speaks with Sally Z, an Award-Winning & TEDx Speaker, Bravery Expert, Coach and Best-Selling Author. In this episode of our podcast series, Ryan and Sally talk about the framework for persuasive messages: Moment, Meaning, Move and the role of stories in communication, pitching, and connecting with an audience. Tune in for an interview packed with ideas and tips on why stories are essential for conveying messages effectively, creating a meaningful connection.