

Kimmel Returns, Kamala’s Unwelcome Comeback, and Trump Takes on Antifa, w/ David Weigel and Andy Ngo
Sep 23, 2025
Emily Jashinsky hosts Andy Ngo, a journalist renowned for his insights on Antifa, and David Weigel, a sharp political reporter. They delve into Trump's executive order labeling Antifa as a domestic terrorist group, exploring its funding and organization. The discussion shifts to Jimmy Kimmel's show return and the media's power dynamics. They critically analyze Kamala Harris's book, her critiques of Biden, and AOC's potential presidential run, all while reflecting on Charlie Kirk's legacy and the future of Turning Point USA.
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Executive Order Signals Intent Not Legal Cure
- The EO designates Antifa as a violent extremist movement, not merely an ideology, enabling new investigative approaches.
- Andy Ngo argues the order signals intent but faces First Amendment and domestic-law limits.
International Links Could Trigger FTO Path
- U.S. Antifa maintains international links that could allow an FTO designation by the State Department.
- Ngo says an FTO label would unlock existing terrorism statutes the EO cannot reach domestically.
San Diego Cell Convicted After Signal Chat Evidence
- Ngo recounted the San Diego 2021 case where 12 SoCal Antifa members were charged after a planned violent attack.
- Trials exposed signal chats, planning, witness intimidation, and led to convictions and prison time.