Wicked Problems - Climate Tech Conversations Can Democracy survive the collapse of the Gulf Stream?
Sep 30, 2024
Dr. Anatol Lieven, Director of the Eurasian Program at the Quincy Institute, shares his insights on the catastrophic implications of climate change, specifically the looming shutdown of the Gulf Stream. He discusses how this could lead to radical weather shifts, economic turmoil, and political instability. The conversation also highlights pressing migration crises and critiques the politicization of climate science. Furthermore, the episode explores the complex relationship between climate policy and future geopolitical tensions.
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AMOC Shutdown Implications
- The shutdown of the AMOC could cause a climate shift like Britain having Newfoundland's climate.
- This could lead to mass migration and political instability, potentially worse than any direct attack from other nations.
Security Focus
- Security establishments focus on traditional military threats even with climate change looming.
- They discuss increased Arctic ship traffic rather than the potential for widespread societal collapse.
Climate and Fascism
- Tadzio Mueller stated that in climate collapse, history bends towards fascism.
- This highlights the potential for societal and political upheaval under climate stress.