Director and actor Benny Safdie discusses his collaboration with comedian Nathan Fielder, their satirical black comedy series The Curse, and Safdie's history of capturing real-life personalities on film. He also talks about his early connection to the movie Kramer v Kramer, his encounters with photographer Robert Frank, and how directors Robert Bresson and Frederick Wiseman inspired him. Safdie dives into his co-directing work with his brother, their debut feature Daddy Longlegs, and projects like Good Time and Uncut Gems. He shares why he worked as a boom operator while directing and his recent pivot to acting. Safdie also discusses playing an astrophysicist in Oppenheimer.
Benny Safdie's role as a boom operator in his own films has shaped the way he directs and acts, allowing him to gain a better understanding of performance and tap into authentic emotions.
Benny Safdie delves into deep emotions for his performances, often accessing personal memories and experiences, and finds the process of expressing vulnerable emotions on screen liberating.
The podcast episode highlights the challenges and uncertainties of a creative journey in the film industry, emphasizing the importance of resilience, staying open to new opportunities, and persisting in pursuing personal interests.
Deep dives
Collaboration with Nathan Fielder and the creation of 'The Curse'
Benny Safdie co-created the show 'The Curse' with comedian Nathan Fielder. The idea for the show emerged from casual meetings between the two and evolved through sporadic text conversations. Eventually, they realized the potential of the concept and decided to bring it to life. 'The Curse' is set in a small town in New Mexico and follows a couple trying to create eco-conscious housing without causing gentrification. Benny Safdie plays Dougie, a reality TV producer who injects conflict into the couple's story.
The role of being a boom operator and its influence on directing and acting
Benny Safdie's role as a boom operator in his own films, such as 'Uncut Gems', has shaped the way he directs and acts. By being physically close to the actors and immersed in the action, Safdie gains a better understanding of performance and can direct from within while acting. He also attributes his background in sound and editing to his ability to recognize the right moments for cuts and to tap into authentic emotions while acting.
Exploring personal experiences and emotions in acting
Benny Safdie delves into deep emotions for his performances, often accessing personal memories and experiences. He describes creating an 'emotional tornado' and relying on triggers to evoke specific emotions, such as crying. However, he acknowledges that it can be emotionally overwhelming and sometimes unhealthy. Safdie finds the process of expressing vulnerable emotions on screen liberating, as it allows him to access and explore feelings that are often hidden or suppressed in everyday life.
Reflecting on childhood and the complexities of recreating it
The podcast episode delves into the concept of reliving childhood through art and the challenges of bringing those memories to life. It explores the idea that while reliving childhood can provide a deeper understanding and closure, the process of recreating it can sometimes distance one from the original emotions and hazy nostalgia. The episode emphasizes the importance of collaboration, complementary perspectives, and the exploration of different points of view to create a truer and more multifaceted portrayal of the past.
Navigating the ups and downs of a creative journey
The podcast episode highlights the challenges and uncertainties of a creative journey, with a specific focus on the director's experiences in the film industry. It explores the realities of navigating setbacks, facing rejections, and finding ways to persist and grow as a filmmaker. The episode conveys the resilience required to overcome disappointments and the importance of staying open to new opportunities and projects that align with personal interests and aspirations.
Throughout his fifteen-year moviemaking career, director and actor Benny Safdie has been drawn to naturalism and first-time performers. Fittingly, his recent collaboration with comedian Nathan Fielder (“Nathan for You”) was a perfect match.
Benny joins us today to discuss their satirical black comedy series The Curse(9:10), the timely premise that inspired the show (13:35), and Safdie’s history of capturing real-life personalities on film (15:58). Then, he describes his early connection to the 1979 movie Kramer v Kramer (19:00), a New York encounter with photographer Robert Frank (23:18), and how directors Robert Bresson and Frederick Wiseman opened his eyes to the possibilities of street casting (26:05).
On the back-half, we dive into Benny’s co-directing work alongside his brother, Josh Safdie (29:55), a heartbreaking scene from their debut feature Daddy Longlegs (34:30), and the projects that followed: Good Time (40:00), Lenny Cooke (42:45), and Uncut Gems (55:00). To close, Safdie talks about why he worked as a boom operator while directing (48:15), his recent pivot to acting (52:35), and his full circle moment of playing an astrophysicist in Oppenheimer (1:00:40).
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