The Late Show Pod Show with Stephen Colbert Stephen Presents: Ocean Vuong (Extended)
Aug 15, 2025
Ocean Vuong, a poet and bestselling author awarded the McArthur Genius Grant, dives deep into themes of hope and the power of literature. He shares insights from his latest work, "The Emperor of Gladness," discussing how fiction illuminates the human experience. The conversation takes a lively turn with 'Late Show Vocab,' as they explore quirky phrases from the show. Vuong also reflects on the transformational impact of art for working-class families, highlighting its role in fostering community and resilience.
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Guest Introduction And Gratitude
- Ocean Vuong describes his appearance and expresses gratitude for being on the show.
- He frames the interview as an honor and acknowledges the book promotion context.
Using Fiction To Ask Unasked Questions
- The novel opens with a man saved from a bridge who then cohabits with an elderly woman with dementia.
- Vuong says fiction lets him ask the questions he couldn't ask his late uncle about suicide and survival.
Starting After The Choice To Live
- Vuong intentionally begins his book after the decision to live to explore 'day two' of choosing life.
- He reframes suicide as a 'hopelessly hopeful' act undertaken to end suffering, prompting investigation of life-after choices.
