Economist Podcasts With this ring: Trump and Putin omit Ukraine
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Feb 13, 2025 
Shashank Joshi, Defense editor for The Economist, and Emmett Livingstone, Africa correspondent, delve into the recent U.S.-Russia negotiations regarding Ukraine, highlighting the sidelining of Ukraine's president. They explore the impact of these discussions on Europe while also interviewing Kornén Nonga, leader of the M23 rebel group in Goma, about the complexities of regional conflict. The conversation also humorously touches on pop culture, specifically the enduring charm and cultural relevance of Bridget Jones.
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Trump-Putin Call
- Trump and Putin held a 90-minute call, initiating negotiations regarding the war in Ukraine.
- This is the biggest development towards ending the conflict since the war began.
US Concessions
- Trump formed a negotiating team including Rubio, Waltz, Ratcliffe, and Whitcoff, notably excluding his Ukraine envoy.
- Concessions include accepting Ukraine won't regain pre-2014 borders, no US troops will be deployed, and no NATO membership for Ukraine.
Ukraine and Europe Sidelined
- Zelensky was excluded from the initial talks, raising concerns about Ukraine's role in the peace process.
- Europeans also expressed concern, emphasizing the need for both Ukraine and European involvement for legitimacy.