The Al Franken Podcast Heather McGhee on Trump’s Wars on DEI and Immigration
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Jun 15, 2025 
Heather McGhee, an expert in economic and social policy and author of "The Sum of Us," joins the discussion on Trump's war on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). She explains how diversity strengthens America and details the chilling impact of ICE raids on immigrant communities, drawing parallels to historical segregationist actions. McGhee emphasizes the economic contributions of immigrants and the moral imperative for society to embrace inclusivity, highlighting the challenges and successes within DEI initiatives in corporate America.
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Purpose of DEI Programs
- DEI programs often serve as remedial integration education for white people in largely white workplaces.
- They aim to check existing bias and facilitate understanding in diverse workplaces.
Diversity Drives Innovation
- Diversity is America’s superpower and key to innovation and better group decisions.
- Diverse groups bring broader perspectives, leading to more effective problem solving.
Wilmer's Immigrant Success Story
- Wilmer, Minnesota thrives because of its Latino and Somali communities.
- At a high school graduation, diverse students were equally celebrated, showing the town's inclusiveness.
