Reality, fiction, and Luigi Mangione, with Joshua Citarella
Dec 20, 2024
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Joshua Citarella, an artist and researcher known for exploring the impact of social media on youth political behavior, dives into the bizarre case of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson's assassination and the enigmatic Luigi Mangione. They discuss the shifting political landscape and the surprising public response to Mangione, revealing a decline in trust towards institutions. The conversation also touches on how technology and radical ideologies shape contemporary political identities, and explores the widening divide between fiction and reality in today's cultural discourse.
The assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson reveals deep-seated disillusionment with institutions, reflecting a rise in anti-establishment sentiments across the political spectrum.
Suspect Luigi Mangione's complex ideological stance intertwines center-right utilitarianism and radical centrist thought, challenging traditional political assumptions about left and right.
The normalization of political violence and erosion of trust in legal frameworks signal a troubling shift in cultural perceptions regarding justice and societal norms.
Deep dives
The Assassination of Brian Thompson
The episode revolves around the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, which has sparked significant discourse due to its sensational elements and the identity of the suspect, Luigi Mangione. Details about Mangione indicate he is an Ivy League graduate and comes from a wealthy background, raising questions on how an individual with such privilege could resort to violence against a prominent figure in the healthcare industry. His manifesto, found at a McDonald's, critiques the greed of health insurance companies, suggesting a deeper ideological conflict rather than a simple personal vendetta. The assassination is portrayed as a real-life intersection of crime and political protest, which evokes discussions about societal values and the perception of justice in the current era.
Public Sentiment and Political Ramifications
The response to Thompson's assassination has highlighted a concerning trend where individuals express sympathy for Mangione, framing him as a vigilante against perceived systemic injustices. This sentiment transcends traditional political divides, as people from various ideological backgrounds find common ground in their anti-establishment feelings, reflecting a notable decline in trust towards institutions like healthcare and law enforcement. The discussion reveals an emotional landscape shaped by discontent with elites and systemic failures, suggesting that many citizens feel abandoned by the institutions meant to protect them. This scenario raises the alarm bell about the potential for political violence becoming more accepted or even celebrated in radical discourse.
Luigi Mangione's Ideological Influences
An exploration of Mangione's ideological leanings exposes a complex mixture often dubbed as 'gray tribe' politics, which straddles both left and right ideals but leans more toward a center-right philosophy. His reading list includes texts that engage with radical centrist ideas, such as works from Tim Urban and Ted Kaczynski, prompting speculation about how these influences may inform his drastic actions. While some put forth the theory of Mangione as driven by leftist ideals, deeper analysis suggests he embodies a more utilitarian, albeit detached, perspective aligned with elements of Silicon Valley thinking. This highlights the complexities of modern political belief systems where individuals can combine disparate ideas into a unique worldview that may lead to extreme actions.
The Erosion of Trust in Legal Institutions
The podcast discusses the erosion of public trust in legal frameworks, suggesting that many now perceive laws as tools of the elite rather than universal moral guidelines. This belief has intensified with the normalization of political violence and conspiracy theories that dismiss established legal standards, as exemplified in the divided public perception of figures like Trump and Biden. The hosts argue that this growing skepticism indicates a dire transformation in political culture where laws can be viewed more as political instruments than as an embodiment of justice. This decline in collective moral understanding poses serious implications for societal stability and governance, as individuals increasingly justify radical thoughts and actions based on perceived injustices.
The Role of Media and Narrative in Shaping Perception
The episode emphasizes how modern media narratives can skew public perception and influence the framing of significant events, including acts of violence. There's a critique of mainstream media's failure to engage with the complexities of topics like the healthcare crisis, which prevents a more nuanced understanding of circumstances leading to public discontent. This narrative framing pushes individuals toward extreme viewpoints, as they grapple with contradictions between their lived experiences and what is portrayed by authorities. As the boundaries of acceptable discourse narrow, the interaction between social media and traditional news underscores a terrifying shift towards sensationalism where the real and fictitious become increasingly blurred.
No cultural phenomenon — and yes, it’s a phenomenon — has been dominating the discourse more these past few weeks than the assassination of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. And in addition to seeming like a dark Hollywood thriller come to life — down to alleged killer Luigi Mangione’s brooding good looks and a literal backpack full of Monopoly money — the story has been raising a lot of important and sometimes uncomfortable questions about the evolving politics of the United States in the 2020s.
What does it tell us about the decline of the American project — and Americans’ faith in everything from the healthcare industry to our legal system — that people on both sides of the aisle have been responding not only with compassion for Luigi, but in some cases celebration and thirst? What are Luigi’s actual politics, and why do so many people think he is a left-wing vigilante when his interests seem far closer to certain center-right, grey tribe, effective altruism-adjacent ideologies endemic to Silicon Valley? And why — between this story, the Trump fist pump, and the New Jersey drones — does it feel like reality is increasingly taking cues from fiction?
To get into it, we invited back Joshua Citarella, an artist and researcher who has spent the past decade studying how the internet and social media are shaping youth political identification and behavior. (You might remember him from our episode on the Boomer Ballast Effect, with the academic Kevin Munger). In addition to launching an excellent new podcast called Doomscroll (check it out!), Joshua recently published an essay called “CEO Murder & the Dark Enlightenment,” where he explores the assassination and its ensuing response in context of the broader social and political shifts (and realignments) that characterize this moment.
We discuss the apparent ideological “buffet” of Luigi’s politics, why the public’s trust in the law — and Democratic institutions more generally — has been eroded to such a degree that it seems to view the killer as the lesser of two evils, and the greater truths that these sort of “stranger than fiction” moments seem to reveal.