[Join our community at my Substack where we continue these conversations with deeper dives into the biggest lessons from each episode, plus my regular essays and behind-the-scenes thoughts: https://bogumilbaranowski.substack.com/]Lawrence Yeo is a former corporate finance professional turned writer-illustrator-philosopher who left investment banking to pursue creative storytelling full-time, creating the blog "More to That" and publishing a book, "The Inner Compass," exploring the intersection of self-understanding, money mindset, and authentic living.
This is his very first podcast interview discussing the new book!
3:00 - Lawrence shares his immigrant family's journey from middle-class comfort to poverty, revealing how parental presence created resilience despite financial hardship
6:00 - "Even though we were poor, I didn't feel poor" - the crucial distinction between circumstances and mindset in childhood poverty
9:00 - Career strategy: Using investment banking as a means to creative freedom, not an end goal - the importance of functional versus status-driven success
12:00 - The world's expectations layer onto our natural contentment, creating mental suffering amid physical comfort - a modern affliction
15:00 - Social referencing from infancy to adulthood: How we unconsciously look outward for safety cues instead of cultivating internal compass
18:00 - Distinguishing between knowledge (taught information) and understanding (gained through experience) - wisdom requires living it yourself
21:00 - Religious texts as compounded knowledge parallel: Our oldest personal stories shape us most through conditioning
24:00 - External success vs. inner turmoil: The asymmetry of attention - 0.1% validation moments vs. 99.9% daily reality
27:00 - Choosing your playing field: Why Lawrence quit music after realizing he didn't want to become like successful musicians in that space
30:00 - The invisible wealth test: Would you climb the mountain if you couldn't tell anyone you reached the top?
33:00 - Fork in the road framework: How repetition changes our relationship with certainty vs. curiosity over time
36:00 - Intuition as the gap between rationality's limits and life's biggest decisions (where you live, what you work on, who you're with)
39:00 - Inner compass metaphor: True North (intuition) held steady by the magnet of self-understanding against winds of conditioning
42:00 - Mastery vs. status: Committing to improvement for its own sake while accepting external inspiration from people whose character you admire
45:00 - The 100-hour blog post test: How Lawrence stress-tested his writing passion by removing all external validation
48:00 - Life as single-player game with multiplayer meaning.
51:00 - The paradox of meaningful relationships.
54:00 - Envy's anatomy.
60:00 - Success redefined.
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