Trump gets to work… and releases Jan 6th prisoners

Jan 22, 2025

Bryan Lanza, a former senior advisor to Donald Trump, sheds light on the contentious pardoning of January 6th prisoners. He discusses how these decisions aim to reshape narratives around the Capitol riots and the mixed public reactions. Lanza also shares insights on Trump's immigration strategy, revealing that immigration raids may be more about public relations than actual deportations. The conversation highlights the complexities within the MAGA movement regarding immigration, emphasizing differing Republican views amidst a challenging political landscape.

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ANECDOTE

Impromptu Press Conference

Donald Trump gave an impromptu press conference from the White House.
He discussed various topics, including the January 6th pardons and the letter left by Joe Biden.

INSIGHT

Pardons and Public Opinion

Pardoning January 6th rioters is unpopular but may not be a top priority for voters.
Trump's justifications, deflecting blame, and victim portrayal are classic tactics.

ANECDOTE

Trump Supporters' Views

Marianna Spring interviewed Trump supporters at the Capitol, finding uniform talking points.
Many believe a false narrative, claiming the riots were a charade and instigated.

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On the first full day of his presidency, Donald Trump defended his decision to release high-profile prisoners jailed over the Capitol riots and to pardon nearly 1,600 people in connection with Jan 6th. Marianna, Sarah and Anthony are together in DC as they discuss who has been released, what the reaction has been, and how Trump is changing the narrative over who was responsible for the riots. Also, Trump’s former advisor Bryan Lanza joins the pod with an inside view on why the immigration raids are more about PR than deportation.

HOSTS: • Sarah Smith, North America Editor • Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenter • Marianna Spring, Social Media Investigations Correspondent • Anthony Zurcher, North America Correspondent

GUESTS: • Bryan Lanza, Former senior advisor to Donald Trump

This episode was made by George Dabby with Purvee Pattni, Rufus Gray and Claire Betzer. The technical producer was Jonny Hall. The series producer is Purvee Pattni. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.

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