All There Is with Anderson Cooper

Coming Back To Life

Apr 25, 2025
Elaine Pagels, a Professor of Religion at Princeton University and author of impactful works on faith, shares her deeply personal journey through grief after losing her young son and husband. She discusses how death can transform one's understanding of life, revealing ongoing connections with loved ones. The conversation also touches on the intricacies of mourning, the societal taboos around child loss, and the healing power of acknowledgment and hope in the face of profound sorrow.
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ANECDOTE

Denial and Mourning Begin Early

  • Elaine Pagels struggled deeply with her son's terminal illness diagnosis, initially refusing to accept it.
  • She eventually found some relief by learning that her experience was named mourning, which started even before death.
ANECDOTE

Sensing Presence At Death

  • Elaine vividly recalls her son Mark's death and sensing his joyful departure from his body.
  • This experience altered her previous belief that death meant total annihilation.
INSIGHT

Connections Hold Us in Grief

  • Elaine felt supported by connections with others during her son's funeral, likened to a web that holds us all.
  • This interconnectedness recalls the spiritual imagery of Indra’s net in Eastern religions.
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