Sky News Daily The making of The Wargame podcast with Sir Ben Wallace and Deborah Haynes
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Jun 10, 2025 Join Deborah Haynes, Security and Defence Editor at Sky News, and Sir Ben Wallace, former Defence Secretary, as they pull back the curtain on The Wargame podcast. They discuss the urgent need for the UK to reassess its defense readiness against potential threats, particularly from Russia. The conversation explores crucial lessons in leadership from crisis simulations and the importance of collaboration among political leaders. Additionally, insights on NATO's role in European security highlight the significance of public awareness in today's geopolitical landscape.
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Post-Cold War Defence Vulnerability
- UK public lacks clear understanding of existential military threats after Cold War peace.
- Defence cuts and fading resilience increase vulnerability to high-impact but low-likelihood threats.
Prepare Without Alarm
- Discussing realistic defence threats prepares the public for potential crises.
- Planning for unlikely events strengthens resilience without causing unnecessary alarm.
Unity Amongst Former Ministers
- Former ministers understood UK defence weaknesses and collaborated beyond party politics.
- Trust and leadership unity are crucial to effective government crisis response.