First, Abby's got some more notes on Taylor Swift, the discourse around Red (Taylor's Version), and a list of celebrity emotional assassins wreaking havoc on her life this week. Then her friend Dori Howard, co-founder of Wade + Belle and The Jane Club, joins for a conversation about myriad topics including, but not limited to: Saved by the Bell, television history and what we can learn from it, Ryan Murphy's Impeachment, Monica Lewinsky taking back her story, Succession, George magazine, and much more.
