Phone A Friend: Nick Hanauer of Pitchfork Economics.
Oct 14, 2023
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Max interviews Nick Hanauer, co-host of the Pitchfork Economics podcast and founder of Civic Ventures. They discuss the $15 minimum wage, neoliberal messaging, Bidenomics, and the struggle to break through the 'pack of lies' corporations sell to maintain the status quo.
Advocating for structural changes in economic policy is crucial to reduce inequality and address societal issues
Telling compelling stories about progressive policies that resonate with people's intuitions is necessary to counter the influence of the neoliberal narrative and debunk corporate bullshit
Deep dives
The Power of Structural Change
Nick Hanauer, the host of the podcast Pitchfork Economics, discusses his work in advocating for structural changes in economic policy to reduce inequality. He emphasizes the importance of focusing on structural change rather than relying solely on philanthropy, as it has a greater impact in addressing societal issues. Hanauer explains that economic prosperity is not a consequence of growth but rather a cause of it, highlighting the need to prioritize policies that benefit the middle class and promote social cohesion and democracy.
Challenging Neoliberal Economics
Hanauer criticizes the neoliberal economic framework and its influence on policymakers and political leaders. He argues that the neoliberal narrative, based on the principles of market fundamentalism, is detached from the realities of the economy and perpetuates inequality. Hanauer calls for a new narrative that prioritizes fairness, growth from the bottom up, and the well-being of working people. He emphasizes the importance of debunking misleading economic claims and advocating for policies that truly benefit everyone.
The Importance of Telling Better Stories
Hanauer highlights the significance of storytelling in shaping public perception and understanding of economics. He argues that progressives need to tell better stories that not only appeal to people's sense of fairness but also demonstrate how progressive policies contribute to economic growth and benefit everyone. Hanauer emphasizes the need to break free from the neoliberal narrative and offer a compelling alternative that resonates with people's intuitions about how the world works.
Unveiling Corporate Bullshit
Hanauer and Don Cohen, the author of the book 'Corporate Bullshit,' uncover the lies and half-truths perpetuated by corporations to protect profit, power, and wealth. They expose various examples of corporate bullshit, such as misleading claims about raising wages leading to job loss, and emphasize the importance of challenging corporate narratives. By unveiling corporate bullshit, Hanauer aims to empower individuals with knowledge and create a more informed and critical society.
Max interviews Nick Hanauer, co-host of the Pitchfork Economics podcast and founder of Civic Ventures. They discuss Nick’s work at Civic Ventures to promote the $15 minimum wage among other initiatives and have a wide ranging discussion about the power of neoliberal messaging, Bidenomics and the struggle to break through the “pack of lies” we’ve been sold by corporations to maintain the status quo.
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