In this episode we chat with pastor turned artist David Hayward, aka Naked Pastor. David shares his journey from church leadership, through faith deconstruction, to a more expansive spirituality. The conversation focusses on David’s marriage, and how he and his wife navigated the complex dynamics of reimagining their relationship amid profound spiritual change. It’s a candid and thoughtful exploration of faith, love, and personal growth.

After the interview Nomad hosts Tim Nash and Joy Brooks reflect on their own evolving faith and the impact on the own marriages.

Interview starts at 19m 37s

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