When you disagree with your boss, should you let it go or take a stand? How do you lean into your integrity and vocalize your beliefs, especially when you aren’t aware of the strength of your own voice? And how do you advise your company to do the right thing, as well?

Junna Ro, the head of strategic legal initiatives for UC Legal at the UC Office of the President, has spent decades inhabiting leadership positions in the insurance and tech industry, both as the former general counsel at Metromile and the chief ethics & compliance officer at CSAA. But entering the world of legal without the connections and role models of her law school peers, she also knows what it’s like to be an outsider.

Join Junna as she shares her passion for diversity, inclusion, ethics, and representation, as well her journey to discovering the power of speaking out and standing up for your convictions.

Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-20

Topics:

Introduction: 1:09

Taking a break from legal work and reflecting: 2:22

Book recommendations: 9:23

Sharing the cultural context of your upbringing: 12:11

Existing as both a legal outsider and a legal insider: 15:16

Finding the courage to speak up in high-pressure moments: 17:34

Defining the difference between ethics and compliance in legal: 23:16

Moving into a General Counsel position at Metromile: 26:49

Taking a stand against Asian hate: 33:55

Advising executive teams on taking a stand on social issues: 39:23

Offering advice to leaders about tackling difficult topics: 44:16

Reflecting on failures: 44:56

Advice for young lawyers: 46:56

Connect with us:

Junna Ro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/junnaro/

Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn

SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft

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