Allen shared with us his journey into design, starting more than 20 years ago and working in top companies such as Google, Facebook, Apple and Ebay. He's been for 4 years now at Pinterest, where he manages the growth design team. We also dived into the current state of Growth Design on tech companies and talked about the future of this role.

On the second half of our conversation, Kate and Allen shared the challenges they both faced when transitioning from IC’s to Managers, and dived into some of the learnings they've made so far.

Where to find Allen:

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allenjordan/

* Website: http://allenjordan.com/

* Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.es/allenjordan

Where to find Kate Syuma, Head of Growth Design at Miro:

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ekaterina-syuma/

* Blog: https://medium.com/@kate_syuma

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katusyuma/

* Website: https://katesyuma.com/

* Twitter: https://twitter.com/kate_syuma

Where to find Oscar Torres:

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oscartorrestryme/

* Website: https://www.oscartorres.me/

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