Morning Joe Jimmy Kimmel nabs highest ratings in over a decade with post-suspension episode
Sep 25, 2025
George Packer, a staff writer for The Atlantic and author, joins to discuss his provocative idea of 'America's Zombie Democracy,' highlighting the gradual erosion of democratic institutions. He explores the impact of ongoing institutional decay and how the political landscape is shifting. The conversation delves into the rising tension in American politics, particularly how threats to democracy are often met with public apathy. Packer emphasizes the urgent need for accountability and a return to democratic principles.
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Staff Texts Reveal Panic After Cancellations
- Joe Scarborough reads real unedited text messages staffers received after shows were canceled, illustrating uncertainty and worry.
- Messages ranged from jokes to genuine concern about job security following the Jimmy Kimmel suspension.
Kimmel's Return Amplified By Platforms
- Jimmy Kimmel's return drew over six million live viewers despite 20% of U.S. households preempting the show.
- His monologue also reached 26 million views on social platforms within 24 hours, amplifying impact beyond traditional broadcast.
Retribution Often Boosts Targets
- Attacks from the White House and allies can backfire by elevating critics and increasing their audience.
- Joe Scarborough argues presidential retribution often strengthens, not silences, perceived enemies.
