And The Writer Is...with Ross Golan Ep. 217: Rodney Jerkins | How He Turned Belief Into Hits — And Changed Music Forever
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Aug 6, 2025 
Legendary producer Rodney Jerkins, known as Darkchild, shares his journey from a hopeful kid in New Jersey to a pillar of modern music. He reveals the mindset behind iconic hits like 'Say My Name' and discusses the importance of belief over sheer talent. Rodney dives into the evolving landscape of songwriting in the AI era, the challenges of staying inspired, and the intricate creative process behind tracks for superstars like Michael Jackson and Lady Gaga. He also emphasizes the need for songwriters to recognize their true value in today's industry.
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From Bus Rides To Basement Demos
- Rodney describes catching the New Jersey transit to Manhattan as a teen and treating the bus like his Bentley.
- He believed his basement demos were better than radio and kept pushing until others cared.
Belief Trumps Instant Validation
- Rodney credits belief and conviction for early momentum more than instant talent.
- He emphasizes creating relentlessly and finding ways to get your work to listeners.
Sleep To Sustain Creativity
- Rodney would tell young him to sleep and preserve energy during big opportunities.
- He warns that exhaustion destroys creativity and longevity in the studio.