New College of Florida is a public college on the state's west coast with fewer than a thousand students known for its focus on sustainability and lack of traditional grading. Lately, it has become the primary target of Governor Ron DeSantis's effort to reshape higher education to better align with his brand of Republican ideology. He has banned public institutions from spending money on diversity, equity and inclusion programs and faculty have quit in droves.

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