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On Point | Podcast

Trump v. big law

Apr 4, 2025
Ankush Kadori, a senior writer for Politico and former federal prosecutor, is joined by Stephen Gillers, a legal ethics professor at NYU. They dive into the effects of Trump’s Executive Orders on law firms, particularly how firms like Skadden and Paul Weiss grapple with political pressures. The conversation reveals the ethical dilemmas faced by big law in balancing financial success and moral responsibility, amid rising concerns over the rule of law and potential authoritarianism in America.
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  • President Trump’s executive orders targeting law firms raise concerns about their integrity and the potential erosion of democratic values in the legal system.
  • Thomas Sipp's resignation from Skadden highlights the moral conflict lawyers face between maintaining personal ethics and navigating political pressures within large law firms.

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Thomas Sipp's Journey to Law

Thomas Sipp moved from Japan to America at the age of ten and faced numerous challenges, including learning English in middle school while being raised by a single mother. Despite the difficulties, he pursued his education, earning an undergraduate degree from the University of Texas and subsequently gaining admission to Columbia Law School, where he took on significant student loans. His motivation to succeed stemmed from a promise to his mother that he would take care of her once he established his career. After graduating, Thomas joined Skadden, a prestigious law firm, drawn in part by the firm's commitment to pro bono work and diversity initiatives.

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