Actor and comedian David Alan Grier joins The Champs to discuss Kanye West, David Mamet, dissing Jodie Foster, dating younger women, filming podcasts, drama school, aging, relationships, the controversy surrounding Kanye West's visit to Occupy Wall Street, the concept of racism, and their experiences with stand-up comedy.
Kanye West's outspokenness about Hurricane Katrina highlights the discrepancy in public reaction to his views over time.
Kanye West's impact on the music industry solidifies his position as a Hall of Famer despite differing opinions on his behavior.
Open dialogue is crucial in distinguishing racial discussions from racism, fostering understanding and growth in society.
Deep dives
Kanye West's Controversial Presence at Occupy Wall Street
Kanye West faced criticism for his appearance at Occupy Wall Street, with some calling him a douchebag. However, his previous outspokenness about the government's response to Hurricane Katrina was defended as a truthful statement. It was noted that no one asked him to censor his views then, but now people are quick to criticize. The conversation then shifted to the concept of racism and racial discussions. Neil Brennan and David Alan Grier shared their thoughts on the issue, highlighting the complexity of racial dynamics and the need for open dialogue.
The Complicated Persona of Kanye West
The complex persona of Kanye West was discussed, acknowledging his musical talent and his ability to produce and rap his own tracks at a high level. The hosts emphasized that Kanye West's statement about President Bush not caring about black people during Hurricane Katrina was a significant moment. Despite differing opinions on his behavior, it was acknowledged that Kanye West's impact on the music industry made him a Hall of Famer and a standout figure.
Perceptions of Race and the Power of Words
The discussion delved into racial perceptions and sensitive discussions around race. The hosts emphasized that people often confuse racial discussions with racism, leading to a fear of engaging in such conversations. They highlighted the importance of distinguishing racism from racial discussions and the need for open dialogue to foster understanding and progress. The conversation highlighted the flaws in labeling and generalizations about race, emphasizing the complexity of the human condition and the potential for growth and change.
Discussion about dating younger women and the challenges of age
The podcast episode delves into the topic of dating younger women and the challenges that come with age. The speaker shares personal experiences of dating women considerably younger than him, highlighting the difference in priorities and interests. He explores the patience issues that arise as one gets older and emphasizes the importance of being aware of one's limited time. The discussion also touches on the naivete often found in individuals in their early 20s.
Anecdotes from a comedy show and interactions with audience members
The podcast episode features anecdotes from a comedy show, where the speaker interacted with audience members. The discussion revolves around humorous encounters with individuals, including a woman who criticized a joke for being heteronormative. The speaker shares observations from the comedy world, contrasting the humor and intelligence portrayed in shows like The Office and pointing out aspects of other shows that fall short. The episode also includes encounters with well-known celebrities and entertainers at various events.
"In Living Color" + "Chocolate News" star David Allan Grier gets with the Champs to discuss Kanye West, David Mamet, dissing Jodie Foster and dating younger women.
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