The Michael Shermer Show

Douglas Murray on Hamas, Iran, and the Collapse of the Two-State Solution

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Jul 8, 2025
Douglas Murray, a bestselling author and associate editor at The Spectator, dives deep into the recent violence in Israel and Gaza, unraveling its historical context. He shares exclusive accounts from victims and perpetrators following the October 7 massacre. The conversation delves into the troubling support for Hamas and the ramifications of Iran's nuclear ambitions on regional stability. Murray critiques the complexities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, including media representation and the faltering two-state solution, offering a nuanced perspective on extremism and democracy.
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Hamas as a Death Cult

  • Hamas and its backers glorify death and destruction as a core ideological value.
  • This mindset is incomprehensible to most Westerners but critical to understand their motives.
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Limitations of Nuclear Deterrence

  • Mutual assured destruction only works if all parties are rational and fear their own demise.
  • Iran's ideology embraces death, making nuclear deterrence with them extremely dangerous.
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Trust Experienced Iran Experts

  • Much misinformation about Iran exists and some comes from recent, superficial research.
  • Long-term experts and international agencies offer more reliable assessments of Iran's nuclear capabilities.
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