Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Ian Bassin of Protect Democracy to discuss the stakes of this moment for American democracy. They explore Protect Democracy's work in protecting election workers, addressing disinformation through lawsuits, and the dangers of authoritarianism. They highlight the need for regulations on new forms of communication and emphasize the importance of individuals in strengthening democracy.
Protect Democracy's work focuses on using the law to protect election workers, inhibit disinformation, and address big constitutional and cultural questions.
Enforcing the existing legal regime can deter the spread of disinformation, leading to a more productive public discourse and holding individuals and media outlets accountable for false claims.
Deep dives
The Threat to Democracy
The podcast episode discusses the current threat to democracy and the troubling state of affairs both domestically and internationally. It highlights the importance of addressing the underlying issues that are undermining democratic systems. The episode features an interview with Ian Bassen, the co-founder of Protect Democracy, who provides insights on the organization's work to protect democracy and prevent it from declining into a more authoritarian form of government. Bassen discusses the challenges posed by leaders and movements who undermine democratic government and shares examples of their efforts to preserve democracy through litigation, legislation, and other means.
The Importance of Rule of Law
The podcast emphasizes the importance of upholding the rule of law and ensuring its application to prevent the erosion of democratic systems. It discusses how Protect Democracy uses legal tools to address the spread of disinformation and defamation, as well as their efforts to protect the integrity of elections. The episode highlights the positive impact of lawsuits in holding individuals and media outlets accountable for spreading false and damaging claims. By enforcing the existing legal regime, the podcast suggests that disinformation can be deterred, leading to a more productive and constructive public discourse.
The Growing Threat of Political Violence
The podcast delves into the increasing threat of political violence and its impact on democracy. It explores how intimidation and harassment of election workers and government officials undermines the functioning of democratic processes. The episode discusses the importance of ensuring the physical safety and well-being of those involved in the democratic system, including representatives and election officials. It highlights the need to address and deter political violence through legal means, holding those responsible accountable and sending a clear message that such actions will not be tolerated.
The Temptation of Authoritarianism
The podcast examines the allure of authoritarianism in times of crisis and uncertainty. It acknowledges the appeal of strong, decisive leaders who promise to fix the problems faced by societies. However, it cautions against such temptations, citing historical examples where authoritarian leaders have led to the erosion of democratic values and rights. The episode emphasizes the need to resist authoritarian rhetoric and instead focus on finding common ground and fostering understanding among individuals with differing views. By engaging in dialogue and seeking common ground, the podcast suggests that democracy can be preserved and strengthened.
As MAGA Republicans engage in extremist arm wrestling in the House Speaker race, and the sins of the 2020 election subversion scheme catch up with Donald Trump’s closest allies, Dahlia Lithwick is joined by brand new MacArthur “genius grant” recipient Ian Bassin of Protect Democracy to take a look at the stakes of this moment for American democracy. An attempt to walk and chew gum at the same time, Protect Democracy’s work focuses on the incremental ways the law can be applied to protect election workers and inhibit disinformation, while also looking to the big constitutional and cultural questions we have to answer if we’re going to reject authoritarianism.