Moonshots with Peter Diamandis OpenAI vs. Grok: The Race to Build the Everything App w/ Emad Mostaque, Dave Blundin & AWG | EP #199
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Oct 8, 2025 
Emad Mostaque, founder of Intelligent Internet and author, joins forces with Dave Blundin of Link Ventures and Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross, a computer scientist focused on AI. They dive into OpenAI's recent developments, exploring whether it will become the ultimate everything app. The trio discusses the implications of AI-driven workflows, Codex's rapid advancements, and the future of robotics. They also touch on energy solutions and the evolving landscape of data centers, all while weaving in community engagement and creativity through AI.
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Battle For Human Attention Is Central
- OpenAI, Meta, Google and others are racing to own human attention as the interface for agentic AI workflows.
- Whoever captures attention will monetize through agentic tasks, ads, and vertical services.
Token Usage Signals Platform Shift
- OpenAI scaled from millions to hundreds of millions of users and billions of tokens per minute.
- This token growth signals a rapid shift from play to daily building with AI.
AI Tokens Could Surpass Human Speech
- AI token output may soon exceed human spoken tokens as models scale usage dramatically.
- This shift marks an inflection where AI-generated content rivals human communication volume.