Pt. 12: ALL The Debates Over 1 Tim 2:11-15: Women in Ministry Series (it took me a year to make this)

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Nov 23, 2023

Delve into the heated debates surrounding 1 Timothy 2:11-15 and its implications for women's roles in ministry. Explore whether Paul's teachings reflect divine authority or personal opinion. Discover interpretations of the term 'permit' and what it means in today's context. Examine claims that this passage addresses wives rather than all women. Engage with discussions on the cult of Artemis and its influence on early church dynamics. Tackle the challenging concept of 'saved through childbearing' and its theological significance.

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ADVICE

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The video discusses the debate on 1 Timothy 2 and women in ministry.

INSIGHT

1 Timothy 2 and Complementarianism

1 Timothy 2 is often used by complementarians, but not as the sole basis.
The complementarian view is supported by other scriptures.

ANECDOTE

Restricting Women's Learning

Some complementarians and patriarchalists restrict women's theological learning.
One pastor decides which theology books his wife can read.

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12:59 What this passage appears to be saying.
23:32 How egalitarians see the passage.
33:00 Was this just Paul's personal opinion?
1:02:50 The word "permit" shows this doesn't apply to us.
1:21:25 Paul has no jurisdiction over us.
1:32:07 This is about wives not women.
1:46:30 What does "quietly" mean?
2:05:30 Does the cult of Artemis change everything?
3:36:44 Is "have authority" a wrong translation?
8:03:15 The "Bunch of Female False Teachers" view.
9:14:32 Why does Paul appeal to Adam and Eve?
9:20:44 Are women more easily deceived than men?
9:44:00 What does "saved through childbearing" mean?
10:56:30 The "Elders Don't Have Authority Anyways" view.
11:04:18 Final conclusions.

1 Timothy 2: 11-15 is THE most hotly debated passage in the Bible today, at least in regard to Women in Ministry and possibly in regards to scholarship in general. It APPEARS to clearly limit women's roles in church ministry but...

Some say this passage shows that women can't be elders.
Others claim it means they can't even be college teachers or politicians.
Others say it's just combating ancient hyper-feminism.
Others say it's been mistranslated, perhaps by misogynists.
Others claim it is really just fighting against the ancient cult of Artemis.
Some say it's just about wives and has no application into church ministry.
Others say Paul's ruling here has no jurisdiction over us today.
Others say it's just Paul's personal opinion and not an apostolic ruling at all.
Still others claim a number of other things about this passage, most often seeking to find a newer way to understand it so that it won't limit the roles of women in ministry.
Today I'm going to go through ALL the debates and demonstrate the sad failure of egalitarian scholarship to reinterpret this passage, as well as provide some proper corrections for many in the patriarchalist camp.

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