Josh Horowitz and Liz Gulliver stop by The Business Brew to discuss employer-employee relationships. Josh and Liz co-founded Kunik to help employers build sustainable, scalable cultures that work for everyone, everywhere they are working.

How and where we work has permanently changed. Kunik helps organizations build thriving cultures by fueling the workplace with community and conversation. Kunik Conversations are facilitated, expert-led discussions that deliver intentional moments of connection, learning, and growth inside a company. Whether it’s DEI, hybrid work, leadership, new managers, burnout, or another challenge, Kunik helps its clients, ranging from nonprofits to large multinationals, build better relationships with and among their employees.

Josh and Liz, met at Columbia Business School. Both came from, and returned to, careers in finance before starting Kunik. Josh spent 10+ years on the buyside (Perry Capital, Citi, & Mackenzie Cundill) and graduated from Columbia’s Value Investing Program. Liz worked in corporate finance and consulting. They built Kunik to help companies build the workplace culture they always wanted but could never find.

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Detailed Show Notes

2:15 - Liz’s background

2:55 - Josh’s background

6:00 - What does Kunik do?

8:35 - Culture and retaining talent

15:27 - The new employer/employee relationship

18:25 - How to change culture in a big company

28:03 - Customers factoring in culture

37:02 - Facilitating conversations to connect people

42:44 - Retention and the ROI on people

55:47 - T-mobile’s culture

58:28 - Being a founder

1:04:39 - Diversity + Psychological safety

1:09:39 - How to get employees interested

1:24:09 - Managing burnout

1:29:00 - Resilience

1:31:54 - Being vulnerable

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