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The Bulwark Podcast

Melissa Murray and John Avlon: The Dark Legal Clouds Ahead

Jan 16, 2025
Melissa Murray, a law professor at NYU and MSNBC contributor, and John Avlon, an author and journalist, dive into the troubling implications of Pam Bondi's nomination as Attorney General. They dissect the glaring red flags surrounding her confirmation, particularly her allegiance to Trump over the U.S. They also discuss the ramifications of Supreme Court rulings on democracy and electoral integrity. Additionally, they tackle the challenges women face in politics and the urgent need for citizens to engage in democracy, urging action to revitalize the middle class.
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Quick takeaways

  • Pam Bondi's nomination as Attorney General raises serious concerns about her commitment to the independence of the DOJ amidst political allegiance.
  • The potential appointment of Trump’s personal lawyers signals troubling shifts within the DOJ that could risk impartiality and public trust.

Deep dives

Pam Bondi's Confirmation Hearing Context

Pam Bondi's nomination as Attorney General is assessed within the current political climate, suggesting her confirmation is likely regardless of her qualifications. The evaluation emphasizes her prior experience as a lawyer and prosecutor, but notes that the role requires strong managerial skills, which may not have been adequately addressed during her hearing. This context reflects a departure from traditional vetting processes, where scrutiny of qualifications would be more pronounced. As such, her candidacy is framed as acceptable primarily because it aligns with the current administration’s goals, raising concerns about potential implications for the integrity of the Department of Justice.

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