

Modern Media Measurement: A Marketer’s Superpower
Takeaways
- Pixels are broken. Nearly half of online conversions (42%) go untracked due to blockers, privacy settings, and attribution window limitations.
- Sales aren’t just on your site. 40% of eCommerce sales happen off-site (Amazon, Walmart, marketplaces), invisible to pixel tracking.
- Ad spend leakage. 17% of spend goes into channels like audio and TV that pixels can’t measure, leaving major blind spots.
- Last click is lazy. It oversimplifies the customer journey, rewarding the final step and ignoring the true path to purchase.
- Duplication is rampant. Multiple platforms often claim credit for the same conversion, inflating perceived ROI.
- MMM is back. Once considered slow and outdated, modern MMM now runs weekly, giving marketers near real-time budget insights.
- Unified framework matters. Combining MMM, incrementality testing, and MTA gives the clearest picture of channel performance.
- Custom > generic. AI-powered custom models now outperform generic off-the-shelf ones—at similar cost—thanks to automation.
- 36% of ad dollars are wasted. Bad data and poor measurement account for over a third of spend, creating a massive opportunity for optimization.
- Experimentation wins. The best way to break through opinion vs. opinion debates is to run structured tests and let the data speak.
Chapters
Intro & Sponsor Shoutout (00:01–00:44) Sean introduces the theme: why marketers have been “flying blind” and how better measurement restores vision.
Meet Zeke Camusio (00:44–02:10) Zeke shares his background as an entrepreneur and why he founded Data Speaks after seeing marketers’ frustration with measurement.
The Problem with Pixels (02:10–03:47) Why current attribution methods fall short: off-site sales, blocked conversions, arbitrary attribution windows, and duplication.
The Measurement Framework (04:19–05:38) Zeke explains the three pillars: MMM, incrementality testing, and MTA—and why they work best together.
MMM Misconceptions (05:38–06:25) Why MMM is misunderstood, how it’s evolved, and why it’s valuable in a real-time, digital-first environment.
The Trouble with Last Click (06:25–08:30) Why simplistic attribution models distort ROI and why causal measurement matters more.
Applying MMM & Incrementality (08:30–12:23) How Data Speaks uses experiments and triangulation to reveal true performance and reallocate budgets.
Onboarding & Custom Models (14:16–17:30) What implementation looks like, why labeling data is critical, and how custom models beat generic ones.
Culture Shift: Gut vs. Data (18:25–19:34) The organizational challenge of moving from instinct-driven marketing to data-driven experimentation.
AI, Trust, and the Future (21:39–24:41) Why brands need independent measurement in the age of AI-driven media buying—and how AI enhances, not replaces, human judgment.
Case Study: From $2M to $22M (24:41–25:51) How reallocating spend and applying the framework drove double-digit ROAS gains and 10x revenue growth.
Competitor Landscape & Differentiation (27:45–30:50) Where Data Speaks sits relative to Recast, Measured, Triple Whale, and others—bringing consolidation under one roof.
Mindset Shift: Do You Even Know You Have a Problem? (30:50–32:06) Why most marketers don’t realize their measurement stack is broken until they see the alternative.
Lightning Round (32:06–34:32) Quick-fire Q&A: myths, frameworks, tools, decompression habits, and Zeke’s rugby background.
Closing Thoughts & Call to Action (34:32–end) Where to find Zeke, upcoming product enhancements, and a final reminder: let the data speak.