John talks about the GOP saying to not politicize the tragedy of Charlie Kirk's death yet they are doing so and using the event to justify attacking people. He remembers how the same thing happened during the tragedy of 9/11. Then, he speaks with Renee Hopkins who is CEO of the Alliance for Gun Responsibility. Renee has experienced the scourge of gun violence first-hand including the tragic loss of her brother Arnie in a school shooting in 1996. Then, John chats with Jody Hamilton and Sean “Smith” Pierce. Jody is the executive producer of the Stephanie Miller Show. She's has garnered several Telly and Aurora Awards for her efforts and one Emmy nomination so far. Sean has owned the airwaves for over 30 years, producing for some of the biggest names like Randi Rhodes, Stephanie Miller, and Bill Press. These days, they're co-hosting and co-producing "The Politics Bar".

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9/11 Revisited: Using a Tragedy to Justify Attacking People