S4 Ep. 80 // Kevin Gerald on Building Trust With Your Pastor

It’s always so exciting when I get to have my Pastor, Kevin Gerald, on the podcast. Not only because he was the first person to get behind me and help support and champion this thing along, but because I attribute so much of who I am and what I know to him. That is why we have him join us in this space once a season, so hopefully, you can glean some of the biggest lessons I’ve learned in life and leadership. We went way over on our time, but it was so good that we’ve split this conversation into two episodes, but we’ll have part two for you next Thursday! We had another excellent question come in from one of the people in our tribe. David says that he recently stepped into a new role leading a team and wants to know what steps he can take to cast vision? As we’ve been doing every week this season, we’re going to tackle one big question. In my eyes, one of my most significant accomplishments in ministry is the relationship that I have with my Pastor. It’s something that has taken work and time to develop. Trust seems to be the currency that leads to so many greater things. So our question this week (and next week) is: How can I build trust with my Pastor? We spend a little time breaking down a huge barrier that I know some second-chair leaders face when being honest with their leaders. We get a peek into the head of a lead pastor of 30 years on what he thinks when his team comes to him and are honest about themselves if they’ve dropped the ball in some area. His answer to this might be the opposite of what you would think instinctually. Here are some of the questions that we cover here in part one. What are some of the things that leaders on our team have done that have created a healthy relationship with you? What are some things that have broken or deteriorated your trust? How have you seen that trust is built in your space? How important is communication to you? We close part one of this conversation, talking about the importance of getting communication right with your Pastor. It’s on you to chase them and find ways to get in those circles. It’s also up to you that you show up prepared for those moments. I hope this gives you some freedom from any entitlement that so many face today, expecting their leaders to chase them down. We are just getting started and you are not going to want to miss part two of this conversation next week! Brandon After the episode: How can you start and/or continue to build trust with your Pastor this week? Position yourself this week to be a student and novice of your Pastor.