
 The Speak Life Podcast
 The Speak Life Podcast Joe Folley and Glen Scrivener Go Head to Head on Morality, Evil, Consciousness and More || SLP612
 Oct 14, 2025 
 In this engaging discussion, agnostic philosopher Joe Folley, known for his YouTube channel Unsolicited Advice, dives deep into morality and the nature of God. He explores the concept of divine hiddenness and how even believers can feel distant from God, referencing figures like Mother Teresa. The conversation touches on the moral implications of suffering and evil, raising powerful examples that challenge traditional views. They also debate the influence of Christianity on Western ethics and contemplate whether moral truths can exist independently of God. 
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Hiddenness As A Theological Puzzle
- J.L. Schellenberg frames divine hiddenness as analogous to the problem of evil, focusing on non-resistant non-believers.
- If God is all-loving and desires relationships, widespread non-belief raises a serious puzzle about divine presence.
Name The Problem Before Solving It
- When discussing hiddenness, prioritize naming the problem honestly before forcing tidy solutions.
- Invite people to engage spiritually (e.g., with Jesus) rather than dismiss their felt absence with quick explanations.
Hiddenness Hits Believers Too
- Divine hiddenness also occurs within believers, illustrated by Mother Teresa's spiritual abandonment.
- The problem isn't only unbelief but believers experiencing prolonged spiritual dryness.





