
Consider This from NPR Sen. Kelly says Trump doesn't “understand the Constitution”
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Nov 25, 2025 Mark Kelly, a former U.S. Navy combat pilot, NASA astronaut, and current U.S. senator from Arizona, discusses the controversial video he and fellow Democrats released to remind troops that they can refuse illegal orders. He emphasizes the importance of constitutional loyalty amidst rising tensions and critiques certain military leaders’ allegiance to the president. Kelly also addresses potential repercussions he faces and the broader implications for service members' rights. His insights reveal the complex intersection of military duty and governance.
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Why Lawmakers Made The Video
- Mark Kelly described past statements by Donald Trump about using force and killing that raised concern among veterans who made the video.
- Kelly said those comments, plus talk of using cities as training grounds, compelled them to remind troops they must refuse illegal orders.
Reaction As A Test Of Constitutional Loyalty
- Kelly argued Trump's reaction showed he treats loyalty to the Constitution as punishable and lacks constitutional understanding.
- He also said Pete Hegseth seems not to understand military law when threatening a court-martial over the video.
Dismissal Of Mocking From The Pentagon
- Kelly dismissed Pete Hegseth's mocking of his rank as unprofessional and called him a 'Twitter troll'.
- He emphasized his seriousness as a senator and Armed Services Committee member despite the ridicule.

