Steven Rinella talks with Scott Fitzwilliams, Ryan Callaghan, Brody Henderson, and Janis Putelis.

Topics discussed: Will it become illegal to launch a vessel off a public roadway for water access in North Carolina?; a proposal to haze mountain lions with hounds in California after the the mauling death of Taylen Brooks by a mountain lion; anti-deficiency; the economic activity generated by a forest; having to fire folks whose salaries you're not even paying; the redundancy in governments; what happens to public lands when there's no one left to manage it?; public lands as a great experiment in democracy; and more.

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