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Josh Holly's book emphasizes the importance of duty and responsibility in defining manhood. He argues that men must take on burdens and obligations, such as providing for their families, protecting their communities, and upholding traditional virtues. Holly asserts that men should find meaning and purpose in fulfilling their roles as protectors and providers, drawing heavily from biblical narratives to advocate for a return to traditional gender roles.
Harvey Mansfield's book challenges the concept of gender neutrality prevailing in contemporary society. He critiques the trend towards equality between the sexes, arguing that this practice neglects the inherent differences between men and women. Mansfield suggests that the principle of gender equality, though centuries old, has recently been applied to sexes, marking a significant societal shift. He questions the implications of a gender-neutral society and reflects on the historical context of gender roles.
Josh Holly critiques the concept of Epicurean liberalism, associating it with a culture that prioritizes individual self-fulfillment and pleasure-seeking. He argues that this ideology overlooks the importance of duty, responsibility, and sacrifice in defining masculinity. Holly contrasts Epicureanism's focus on personal fulfillment with his belief in the necessity of strong, principled men to protect societal values and uphold traditions.
The juxtaposition between Josh Holly's biblical narrative and Harvey Mansfield's philosophical approach reveals contrasting perspectives on masculinity and societal values. While Holly draws heavily from biblical teachings to advocate for traditional gender roles and moral duties, Mansfield engages in a philosophical reflection on gender neutrality and societal shifts. The narratives presented by Holly and Mansfield underscore the complexity and diversity of viewpoints on masculinity in contemporary discourse.
The podcast delves into the challenges men face in conforming to traditional masculine norms. It discusses the influence of parental figures, societal expectations, and personal experiences in shaping individual notions of masculinity. The conversation touches on the complexity of defining what it means to be a man and explores the relationship between vulnerability, strength, and the impulse to protect.
The podcast examines how the left engages in discussions about masculinity and manhood. It highlights the tension between promoting individual freedom and offering guidance on values and virtues that men should uphold. The episode suggests the importance of fostering solidarity and encouraging behaviors such as humility, active listening, and self-affirmation within male communities.
Through personal anecdotes and philosophical reflections, the podcast questions whether there is a fundamental essence to being a man or a 'manly minimum.' It ponders on the virtues that men are drawn to and how these impulses can align with values like solidarity, protectiveness, and self-affirmation. The conversation contemplates the intersections between protection, rule, and the inherent complexities in defining masculinity.
"Many men in this country are in crisis, and their ranks are swelling," Missouri Senator Josh Hawley said at the National Conservatism conference in 2021. "And that's not just a crisis for men. It's a crisis for the republic."
Some version of this sentiment — that men are in trouble, adrift, or falling behind — is shared by writers and thinkers across the political spectrum. It's nearly impossible to open a magazine without finding an article about the state of manhood in America. Brookings Institution scholar Richard Reeves' 2022 book Of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male Is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What to Do about It is a best-seller. Figures like Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate attract huge audiences, serving as reactionary self-help gurus for young people eager to be told what a man is and how he should behave. One doesn't have to accept the right's framing of the problem — nor any kind of gender essentialism — to acknowledge the statistics: boys and men are falling behind in education, in work-force participation, and succumbing to drugs, alcoholism, and suicide.
Hawley — apparently having stewed on the topic for two years — has just released a book on "manhood," which advises a revival of biblical virtues to guide the aimless young men of 21st century America. To pair with Hawley, we read Harvey Mansfield's 2006 book on "manliness." Putting Hawley's evangelical Christian preaching in conversation with Mansfield's Straussian philosophical playfulness proved very constructive. Along the way, we talk about our own relationship to manhood and try to decide which (if any) of the virtues associated with maleness are worth preserving, defending, or even advising young men to embrace.
Further reading:
Harvey C. Mansfield, Manliness, Yale University Press, 2006.
Joshua Hawley, Manhood: The Masculine Virtues America Needs, Regnery, 2023.
Joshua Hawley, "America's Epicurean Liberalism," National Affairs, Fall 2010.
Becca Rothfeld, "How to be a man? Josh Hawley has the (incoherent) answers," The Washington Post, May 18, 2023.
Phil Christman, "What Is It Like to Be a Man?" Hedgehog Review, Summer 2018.
Martin Amis, "Return of the Male," London Review of Books, Dec 5, 1991.
Martha Nussbaum, "Man Overboard," New Republic, June 22, 2006.
Idrees Kahloon, "What's the Matter With Men?" The New Yorker, Jan 23, 2023.
Zoë Heller, "How Toxic Is Masculinity?" The New Yorker, Aug 1, 2022.
Lisa Miller, "Tate-Pilled What a generation of boys have found in Andrew Tate’s extreme male gospel." New York Magazine, Mar 14, 2023.
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