Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast Are AI Browsers the Future with Josh Miller
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Jun 2, 2025 
In this discussion, Josh Miller, CEO of The Browser Company, shares insights about the innovative web browsers Arc and Dia. He explores how these tools aim to transform user experiences and foster community connections. The conversation dives into the evolving role of AI in browsing, highlighting its potential for personalization and engagement. Josh also reflects on the challenges of transitioning users from traditional browsers while addressing the need for creativity and originality in an AI-driven media landscape.
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Browser's Untapped Potential
- Josh Miller observed that everyone was using web apps inside the same old Chrome browser with little innovation. - His wife and others spent hours daily inside Chrome, even in non-tech fields, showing browsers' importance.
AI Changes Computing Interaction
- AI is fundamentally changing how everyday people interact with computers, not just tech insiders. - Milling realized AI chat tools rewiring usage habits after seeing tech-adjacent friends adopt them enthusiastically.
Build New Product for AI
- Avoid integrating AI deeply into Arc due to complexity and performance issues. - Build Dia as a new, simpler AI-native browser to lower the novelty tax for new users.