Isabella Rossellini is nominated for Best Supporting Actress at this weekend’s Academy Awards. Before the big show, we wanted to give you a chance to listen back to her incredible conversation with Julia.

Today on Wiser Than Me, Julia sits down with 72-year-old actress, director, and model Isabella Rossellini, currently starring in the film Conclave. The two dive into a conversation about Isabella’s Long Island farm, why she loves referring to herself as ancient, and her personal journey with sexuality and romance, particularly in her later years. Plus, Julia asks her 90-year-old mom, Judith, to recite a perfectly timed Mary Oliver poem and plots a potential adventure with her.

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