The Will Spencer Podcast KATY FAUST - Fighting for Kids: A Christian Mom Plans to Destroy Gay Marriage
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Sep 12, 2025 
Katy Faust, founder and president of Them Before Us, passionately discusses her mission to defend children's rights, advocating for a family structure that includes both a mother and father. She boldly reveals her plan to challenge gay marriage through legal channels by emphasizing children's needs over adult desires. The conversation critically examines how no-fault divorce and modern reproductive technologies like IVF and surrogacy have commodified children, reshaping societal views on family. Katy's unique approach challenges listeners to prioritize children's rights in family dynamics.
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Children Hold Prepolitical Natural Rights
- Children have fundamental natural rights that exist prior to government and require protection, not provision.
- Those rights include a right to life and a right to the people responsible for their existence.
Natural Rights: Preexistence, No Provision, Equality
- A natural right exists pre-government, needs no external provision, and is equally held by all.
- Parenthood is such a pre-political right: if you exist, your mother and father exist and you have a right to them.
Not Every Claim Is A Natural Right
- Many adult 'rights' are commodities or political claims, not natural rights.
- Distinguish government-provided goods from pre-political rights to avoid conflating desires with rights.
