Reporting to all you curious people from the liminal week between Christmas and New Year’s —JVN and their iconic mom, Mary Oaks, are bringing us a festive kiki straight from Austin, Texas! Recorded mid-Christmas revelry, this episode is brimming with family vibes, advice for trusting your aesthetic instinct, and some mic drops about life in small town America. Whether you’re here for the holiday glow or a little aesthetic inspo - this dynamic mother-child duo is serving, darling.

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