Mustafa Barghouti: What next for the Palestinian people?
Nov 7, 2023
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Mustafa Barghouti, a Palestinian doctor and co-founder of the Palestinian National Initiative, discusses topics such as the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, Israel's military operation, interactions with Hamas, and the justification for their actions as a response to occupation and apartheid.
The ongoing conflict in Gaza is driven by Netanyahu's goal of ethnic cleansing and changing the demographic makeup of the region.
Dr. Bhagouti advocates for both a two-state solution with the removal of Israeli settlements and settlers, as well as the possibility of a one democratic state with equal rights for Palestinians and Jews.
Deep dives
Gaza's Drastic Humanitarian Crisis
The situation in Gaza is absolutely drastic and a huge humanitarian crisis. Israel's siege and bombardment have caused immense suffering and loss of life. Medical teams are struggling to provide care due to lack of resources, with children in incubators and people in need of dialysis in critical condition. Hospitals are unable to function due to fuel shortages, and surgical operations are being conducted without anesthesia. The impact of the Israeli offensive has resulted in a devastating humanitarian crisis, characterized by genocide, collective punishment, and ethnic cleansing.
Netanyahu's Plan for Gaza
According to Dr. Bhagouti, Netanyahu's true goal is not to release prisoners but to ethnically cleanse the population of Gaza. Despite Hamas' willingness to release civilian prisoners in exchange for a ceasefire, Netanyahu continues the bombardment, leading to the deaths of Israeli prisoners as well. Dr. Bhagouti believes that Netanyahu is attempting to evict Palestinians from northern Gaza and reoccupy it without the presence of the Palestinian people. The ongoing conflict, in Dr. Bhagouti's view, is aimed at changing the demographic makeup of the region through ethnic cleansing.
The Future of Gaza and the West Bank
Dr. Bhagouti asserts that Gaza cannot be separated from the West Bank and believes in the two-state solution. He calls for the removal of Israeli settlements and settlers from the West Bank, allowing Palestinians to establish their own state. However, he also advocates for a one democratic state, where all people, Palestinians and Jews, have equal rights. Dr. Bhagouti acknowledges the challenge of persuading young Palestinians who have experienced oppression and occupation to embrace non-violence but emphasizes that he believes in the possibility of coexistence with Jewish Israelis in a peaceful and democratic setting.
Stephen Sackur speaks to Mustafa Barghouti, a Palestinian doctor and co-founder of the Palestinian National Initiative. When this terrible round of violence does eventually end, what then for the Palestinian people?
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