Spotify's co-president and chief product officer, Gustav Söderström, discusses recommendations, audiobooks, app design, and Spotify's aspirations. Alex Cranz joins to talk about streaming news, including the plan to combine Disney Plus and Hulu.
Spotify aims to excel in both background and foreground music discovery, providing personalized recommendations and supporting exploration of new genres and acts.
Spotify is investing in creating an AI-driven DJ experience that reduces choice paralysis and offers personalized music sessions based on user preferences.
Spotify develops AI tools like the dubbing feature to empower creators and provide a localized listening experience while respecting their control and rights.
Spotify sees AI as a tool to enhance user experiences, striving to build an AI DJ that becomes a trusted companion, curating tailored music sessions while maintaining user autonomy.
Deep dives
Spotify's AI Recommendation System and Multi-Content Platform
Spotify is focused on becoming an incredible AI recommendation system that knows exactly what users want to listen to at the right time. They aim to excel in both background discovery, suggesting tracks that fit users' preferences, and foreground discovery, helping users explore new genres and acts. The recent redesign of the app aimed to improve the home feed by showing better recommendations, richly animated images, and videos. However, Spotify realized they had gone too far in prioritizing discovery over recall, causing user frustration and loss of easy access to favorite sessions. They have since made adjustments to balance recall and discovery. Additionally, Spotify's strategy of integrating music, podcasts, and audiobooks into one app aims to provide a comprehensive listening experience. They acknowledge the challenges in maintaining a unified user interface while distinguishing between different content types. Spotify is focused on empowering creators and providing more tools for exploration, while still valuing human curation and control. They leverage AI technologies to enhance recommendation algorithms and explore generative AI possibilities for more personalized experiences. The ultimate goal is to create a balance between user control and algorithm-driven recommendations to ensure users feel a sense of trust and connection with Spotify.
Building a DJ-like Experience and Perfecting Music Sessions
Spotify is investing in creating an AI-driven DJ experience that can provide tailored music sessions for users. The DJ feature focuses on reducing choice paralysis by presenting users with a curated playlist that they can trust. It aims to remove the burden of decision-making by offering personalized music without overwhelming options. The DJ feature leverages user data and AI technologies to understand users' music taste and preferences. This enables Spotify to deliver recommendations that align with users' preferences but also offer a sense of exploration and discovery. The goal is to create a music session where users feel comfortable allowing Spotify to shape their listening experience, reducing the need for user-curated playlists. However, Spotify recognizes the importance of balancing user control and algorithmic recommendations, allowing users to have a fault-tolerant solution and easily express their preferences.
Empowering Creators with Dubbing and Translator Tools
Spotify has been focused on developing AI tools that empower creators, such as the dubbing feature, which translates podcast episodes into different languages. The dubbing feature ensures that translated episodes sound natural and authentic by considering aspects like intonation and genre-specific language. The goal is to provide a localized listening experience for users around the world while maintaining the control and rights of creators. Spotify recognizes the importance of creator autonomy and ensures that creators retain control over their content even when utilizing AI technologies. By offering these translation tools, Spotify enables creators to reach a global audience and expand their reach beyond linguistic barriers.
The Power of AI and the Future of Spotify
Spotify sees AI as a powerful tool for enhancing user experiences and their connection with the platform. They aim to leverage AI advancements to build an AI DJ that understands users and delivers music based on their preferences. As AI technologies improve, Spotify intends to make their AI DJ even more intelligent and culturally aware, so it becomes a trusted companion for users. The ultimate goal is to reduce the time users spend on creating their own playlists and allow Spotify to curate tailored music sessions that align with their preferences. Spotify believes in finding the right balance between algorithmic recommendations and user control, allowing users to switch between different listening modes and maintain autonomy over their music choices.
Limited options for mid-market MP3 players
The listener is struggling to find an MP3 player at a mid-market price range that can automatically update podcasts and play music from Spotify. Most MP3 players available are either high-end and expensive or low-end with limited functionality.
Consider buying a used iPod Touch or secondary phone
One option is to purchase a used iPod Touch, which can still run Spotify and podcasts for a few more years. Another option is to buy a secondary phone and only download the necessary apps for music and podcasts.
Wearable devices and niche music gadgets
While there are limited options for MP3 players, some wearables and niche music gadgets exist that integrate with Spotify and podcasts. However, they often require syncing with a smartphone and may not provide the full functionality desired.
Today on the flagship podcast of machine learning-based recommendation systems:
03:31 - The Verge’s David Pierce chats with Spotify’s co-president and chief product officer Gustav Söderström about recommendations, audiobooks, app design, what Spotify wants to be, and whether it’s possible to do it all well.