

Washington Week with The Atlantic full episode, 10/3/25
Oct 4, 2025
Andrew Desiderio, Senior Congressional Reporter for Punchbowl News, offers keen insights into the current government funding standoff. He discusses how Democrats are leveraging the situation to appeal to their base, drawing parallels to past shutdowns. The conversation also delves into Trump’s motivations behind the shutdown, and contrasts his and Russ Vought's distinct approaches to bureaucracy. The panel underscores each party's strategic goals and examines the implications of recent controversial meetings among top military officials.
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Trump Enjoys The Shutdown Theater
- Donald Trump enjoys the political theater of a shutdown and uses trolling to energize his base.
- He also frames the fight as an opportunity to dismantle parts of the administrative state.
Shutdowns As Routine Leverage
- Shutdowns are a recurring Washington tactic used by the party lacking power to exert leverage.
- This time feels different because the White House is weaponizing cuts against Democratic cities and projects.
Healthcare Credits Are The Leverage Point
- Democrats are using a shutdown to force attention on health care and because they view Trump as untrustworthy.
- The Obamacare premium tax credits are a pivotal leverage point heading into 2026 concerns.