Episode 22: Ethical engineering management with David Yee
May 25, 2024
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VP of Engineering at the NY Times, David Yee, discusses managing managers, ethical leadership, delegation, and adapting management styles. He emphasizes principles over tasks, the challenges of transitioning into director roles, and the importance of ethical engineering management. Listen to the episode for more insights on humane management in the tech industry.
Balancing authority with vulnerability is crucial for managers of managers, emphasizing the need for ethical decision-making and understanding complex human dynamics within teams.
Empathy, adaptability, and continuous self-assessment are key for effective leadership, highlighting the importance of embracing vulnerability and learning from mistakes.
Deep dives
Challenges in Transitioning to Management Roles
Transitioning to management roles presents challenges such as accepting new responsibilities and understanding the shift in mindset from individual contributor to manager. David Yi, a VP of engineering, shares his journey from being an engineer to a manager of managers, highlighting the complexities and learning curves associated with each phase of growth. As he reflects on his experiences, he emphasizes the need to balance authority with vulnerability, avoid micromanaging, and continuously learn from mistakes to evolve as an effective leader in managing managers.
Navigating Ambiguity and Decision-making
David discusses the importance of navigating ambiguity and ethical decision-making in management roles. He emphasizes the need for managers to understand complex human dynamics within teams and discern right from wrong in various situations. By focusing on principles rather than tasks, managers can effectively lead teams towards success while fostering a culture of ethical engineering management. David highlights the significance of delegation, collaboration, and long-term strategic planning as essential skills for managers transitioning into leadership roles.
Leading with Empathy and Adaptability
Empathy, adaptability, and maintaining a reflective approach are key themes in David's advice for individuals new to managing managers. He stresses the importance of making no assumptions and embracing vulnerability to foster growth and learning. By encouraging continuous self-assessment, receptiveness to feedback, and embracing the journey of making mistakes, managers can develop into effective leaders who prioritize ethical decision-making, team collaboration, and strategic thinking. David's insights underscore the transformative nature of transitioning from junior management roles to overseeing other managers.
Resources for Professional Development
When it comes to resources for professional development, David recommends Camille Fournier's book, 'The Manager's Path,' as a comprehensive guide for understanding managerial transitions and leadership responsibilities. While acknowledging the value of external resources, he highlights the unique nature of each individual's journey and the need to adapt principles to suit specific team dynamics. David's focus on empowering managers to think critically, challenge assumptions, and lead with empathy showcases a personalized approach to leadership development that prioritizes continuous growth and learning in managing managers.
In this conversation with VP Engineering at the NY Times, David Yee, we cover a huge amount of ground from how delegation differs for managers of managers, the focus on principles over tasks, adapting your management style, bad reasons why people want to be a director and what does ethical engineering management mean to him. Listen to this episode for more.
Guest Biography:
David Yee is VP of Engineering at the New York Times. As an engineering leader, he’s built and scaled teams at both small and enormous companies in the worlds of journalism, music, and art—with an emphasis on product-oriented engineering and humane management.
His career has included roles as Chief Architect and co-founder at 20 by 200, co-founder and CTO at Editorially, and Engineering Director of Chorus at Vox Media