The podcast explores the gymcel, a polarizing figure in the manosphere who seeks validation through physical gains. It discusses incel terminology and the hatred towards gymcels. The podcast questions whether the gymcel is deserving of sympathy and the arbitrary nature of beauty standards for men. It also delves into the comfort of categorization and the ideologies behind the red pill and the black pill. The damaging effects of beauty standards influenced by capitalism and the debate surrounding empathy for incels are also explored.
Gymcels within the incel community face stigma for prioritizing physical transformation through exercise, viewed as a betrayal by those who believe in predetermined looks.
Beauty standards, both for men and women, contribute to feelings of alienation and inadequacy, perpetuated by capitalism and selling solutions to self-perceived flaws.
Empathy for incels' struggles is complicated by the harm and hate directed towards women, hindering efforts to fully extend understanding and support.
Deep dives
Jim Cells and the Search for Control
Jim Cells are individuals within the incel community who turn to working out at the gym as a way to improve their physical appearance and increase their chances of getting laid. While some view this as a way to take control of their lives and make positive changes, others within the incel community consider them to be traitors. The concept of looks maxing, which includes efforts to enhance one's appearance, plays a significant role in the gym cell ideology. However, it is important to note that within the incel community, there is a divide between those who believe physical transformation can lead to success and those who see it as a futile effort predetermined by their unattractive faces. The topic of male beauty standards and the pressures men face in relation to their appearance also comes into play, paralleling the broader issues surrounding beauty standards in society. Overall, the incel community serves as a reflection of societal alienation, depression, and the desire for control in a world driven by chaotic forces.
The Distinction Between Gym Cells and Other Incels
Gym cells, who focus on physical transformation through exercise, are often stigmatized within the incel community itself. Their attempts to improve their appearance are seen as a betrayal, as they go against the belief that looks are predetermined and unchangeable. This rejection of gym cells is rooted in the philosophical divide between those who prioritize self-improvement and those who believe the problem lies in societal forces beyond their control. The different paths within the incel community illustrate the complex dynamics at play, as individuals navigate between the pursuit of physical transformation and the fatalistic acceptance of their perceived unattractiveness.
The Impact of Beauty Standards and Capitalism
The notion of beauty standards, both for men and women, plays a significant role in the experiences of individuals in the incel community. The pressure to conform to specific physical ideals creates a sense of alienation and inadequacy, with capitalism commodifying body modification and capitalizing on insecurities. The critique extends beyond the incel community, encompassing broader systems that sell solutions to self-perceived flaws and prey on vulnerable individuals. It is crucial to recognize that society's obsession with beauty standards affects people of all genders, perpetuating unrealistic expectations and contributing to feelings of self-hatred and isolation.
The Struggle to Find Empathy for Incels
While it is important to acknowledge the struggles and insecurities experienced by incels, it can be challenging to fully extend empathy considering the harm and hate directed towards women within the community. The blaming of women for their perceived lack of success and the promotion of extremist ideologies hinder efforts to empathize. It is essential to separate valid experiences of insecurity and mental health struggles from the toxic narratives that scapegoat and villainize women.
Navigating the Complexities of Incel Communities
Understanding the complexities of incel communities requires recognizing the underlying issues of isolation, alienation, and depression. Incels find solace and community online, often driven to radicalization by the internalization of self-hatred and societal rejection. While acknowledging the broader societal factors at play, it is crucial to address the misogyny and hatred within these communities and offer support for individuals who are struggling with mental health and body image issues.
Not quite an incel, not yet a Chad. The gymcel is a little-known, but hugely polarizing figure. Rather than swallowing the black pill and turning away from society (one where evil feminists govern man's ability to get laid), the gymcel takes matters into his own hands and get gains in pursuit of the ultimate Chad-bod. After all, everyone struggles with body image from time to time. So why do women hate him? Or, better yet, why do incels hate him? Hannah and Maia discuss the gymcel and his peculiar role in the ever-expanding Manosphere, giving you a thorough breakdown of all the incel terminology we're sure you've been dying to learn ("looksmaxxing"... "manlets"... "fapstinence"...). Is a figure associated with the worst subsects of the internet worthy of our sympathy? Could the gymcel be more benign than he seems?
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Sara Brzuszkiewicz, “Incel Radical Milieu and External Locus of Control” International Centre for Counter-Terrorism (2020).
Maddalena Cannito and Raffaella Ferrero Camoletto, “The Rules of Attraction: An Empirical Critique of Pseudoscientific Theories about Sex in the Manosphere” Sexes Vol. 3 (4).
Hussein Kesvani, ““The Latest Manosphere Subculture is the ‘Gymcel’” Mel Magazine (2019).
Brian Van Brunt and Chris Taylor, Understanding and Treating Incels: Case Studies, Guidance, and Treatment of Violence Risk in the Involuntary Celibate Community, Routledge (2020).
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