This podcast is with…. GASP!…. a sex worker. Her name is Aella, and her career path is surprising.

She’s made a lot of money performing for men online, and being an escort. But she's also an outspoken libertarian. “I just knew that freedom was really important,” she tells me. Now she’s paid to do research. Her surveys are unconventional, including something she calls a “rape spectrum." Here's our wide-ranging conversation.