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Conflict, crisis, consumption: What’s eating our nation? Amanda Ripley: Full Interview

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Jun 26, 2025
Amanda Ripley, a New York Times bestselling author and co-founder of Good Conflict, delves into the obsessive nature of high conflict. She reveals how people get trapped in a cycle of all-or-nothing thinking that exacerbates stress and narrow-mindedness. Despite a strong desire to escape, many find themselves drawn to conflict for a sense of purpose. Ripley emphasizes the importance of deep listening and effective communication to break free from harmful patterns, discussing how journalism can shape perceptions during crises and promote community resilience.
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INSIGHT

High Conflict's Toxic Spell

  • High conflict traps us in an us versus them mindset that escalates and harms what we want to protect.
  • It acts like a magnetic spell and narrows our thinking, causing us to repeat destructive patterns.
INSIGHT

High Conflict Is Like a Tar Pit

  • High conflict is like a tar pit that looks calm but traps you as you try to escape.
  • Fighting harder in conflict only deepens your entrapment and worsens the situation.
ANECDOTE

Gang Leader's Turning Point

  • Curtis Toler, a Chicago gang leader, reached a saturation point seeing the cost of conflict after his son's graduation.
  • He escaped violence by relocating, joining a basketball league, and embracing his faith for peace.
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